And just when we thought all hope was lost for the republic, the Vice President Debate rushes in to save the day. For the most part civility, manners, and adultish behavior carried the day at the 2020 Vice President debate. The fly won the debate. Susan ruled. And our post-debate podcast panel breaks it down in this special podcast episode recorded immediately after the Vice President debate.

Our podcast panel includes JB Shreve, Casie Shreve, Jonathan Webster, Terrell Spencer, and a special guest from the End of History Insiders, Kristen Harding.

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JB Shreve is the author of "How the World Ends: Understanding the Growing Chaos." He has been the host of the End of History podcast since 2012. He has degrees in International Relations and Middle East Studies. His other books include the Intelligence Brief Series. Regular posts and updates from JB Shreve are available at